CARLYLE, William Frederick


most likely to be
No.200515, Corporal (Mechanic) William Frederick CARLYLE
Aged 30


5th Group H.Q., Royal Air Force
formerly Royal Naval Air Service
Died in Motor Accident on Thursday 6th February 1919


William Frederick Carlyle was born in Chantilly, France (British subject) on 10th March 1889. His parentage has not been found.

1891 census...From the 1901 census it appears the Carlyle family were living on the Continent.

1901 census...Aged 12, he was a boarder at Church Lane, Burwell with William SMITH [68] carter born Alconbury and his wife Elizabeth [60] born Burwell and their son John William [16] apprentice carpenter born Burwell and a boarder Emily PLATT [63] single, born Middlesex. Also there were Leonard CARLYLE [13] born France and Alec CARLYLE [7] born in Budapest (presumably three CARLYLE brothers.)

1911 census...Aged 22, a chauffeur, he was at 19 Malvern Road, Luton with his brother Leonard ( a tailor) and wife Helena Maude [23] born Luton and their son Thomas [3] born Luton. His brother Alec was a stableman at Phantom House, Newmarket working for Thomas Jennings.

On 1st August 1918 he married E. Fernande Carlyle (seemingly in France). Her address after his death was Villa Speranza, Digne de Mer, Malo-les-Bains, near Dunkirk.

Despite him being referred to as "private" on the memorial, there seems to be no soldier fitting his description on CWGC or "Soldiers Died". His previous residence in Burwell and the younger brother still living in the area in 1911 does make the man described here a definite possible candidate

The whole identification problem is compounded by the fact that the Pte.F Carlyle on the monument is on the added bit of the centre panel, not on the original panel, and F.C.Carlyle M.M. on the memorial inside the church was a confused man who enlisted in the Canadian Army as American born, James Anderson, and it was quite some time before his true identity was found to be Francis Charles Carlyle with his parents Charles and Mary Carlyle living at Carleton, Carlisle, Cumberland. This may take some time to sort out so watch this space !


He attested on 22nd September 1914, aged 25, 5 feet 3 inches (160 cm) tall, chest 37 (94 cm)" He was a motor mechanic, attested on 22nd September 1914 in the Royal Naval Air Service. Entry date 23rd September 1914 as Air Mechanic 1, Grade D.
On 30th September he arrived in France, but returned to England on 22nd October 1914, this period was part of his attachment to RNAS Pembroke III until 4th February 1915, then RNAS President II until 29th April 1917, then returned to France still attached to RNAS Pembroke II becoming Leading Mechanic D on 30th April 1917. On 31st January 1918 he left France and joined RNAS Daedalus until 31st March 1918
Transferred on the formation of the Royal Air Force on 1st April 1918 as Corporal Mechanic. On 19th May 1918 he was posted to 5th Group, HQ.

He was killed in a motor accident near Dunkerque on 6th February 1919.




photo: Commonwealth War Graves Commission



William Frederick Carlyle is buried in Dunkirk Town Cemetery, grave 4:E:26

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